Beth Sarim

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  Only baptised JWs will make it?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  i think it was a john cedars video or someone else’s where the point was brought up that only baptised jws will be saved?

  then one talk about kids of baptised jws hope they will make it but even them don’t know.

  most jws probably think that some good people who are not baptised may make it through, but this is not official teaching?.

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  Beth Sarim

  When you hear JW families pressuring their children to get baptized they often commend them and tell them they are making a wise ''choice''.

  Excuse me. There is no ''choice'' in the matter. When you hear governing body members influencing families to revoke teenagers their drivers license by a certain age,,threatening with fear-mongering armageddon rhetoric, and threats like these,,,,there is no choice.

  And adolescents getting kicked-out of home for some minor infraction after getting baptized due to pressure,,,,there is no choice.

  When there is a threat involved their is no choice,
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  Is WT Using ATTENDANTS At The Conventions To Be: "TOY COPS"

  by HiddlesWife in

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  i have heard from a few ppimis and several pimos that the attendants who are stationedly-assigned to the front entrances of the borgvenues (cahs and other arenas) have been checking to see if any persons (members and non-member visitors) have badges.

  on the other hand, if these persons don't have one, this is what i was told that these dubs do this: corral around the non-badge-wearing individual and interrogate he/she/them plus questioning them, "why are you here?!".

  also, even if that person or persons have an invitation plus showed it to these dubs, these toy cops still do that procedure.

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  Beth Sarim

  Most if not attendants are company men.

  Like secret service agents,,,but only acting for the Borgs behalf.

  They carry radios often wearing sunglasses and acting tough.
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  Only baptised JWs will make it?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think it was a john cedars video or someone else’s where the point was brought up that only baptised jws will be saved?

  then one talk about kids of baptised jws hope they will make it but even them don’t know.

  most jws probably think that some good people who are not baptised may make it through, but this is not official teaching?.

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  Beth Sarim

  There was a video,,,the speaker was clearly saying ""only baptized JWs will survive Armageddon",,,then he reiterated the same thing but slower,,,,'"only baptized JWs will survive Armageddon"""

  I know the video you're talking about.

  A few years ago,,,just before the pandemic.

  I just cant remember who or when that was. I cant begin to comb through the videos to find it.

  But the way he was talking,,,,the very intent of the 'speaker' was very clear. To fear and control.
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  Is WT Using ATTENDANTS At The Conventions To Be: "TOY COPS"

  by HiddlesWife in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have heard from a few ppimis and several pimos that the attendants who are stationedly-assigned to the front entrances of the borgvenues (cahs and other arenas) have been checking to see if any persons (members and non-member visitors) have badges.

  on the other hand, if these persons don't have one, this is what i was told that these dubs do this: corral around the non-badge-wearing individual and interrogate he/she/them plus questioning them, "why are you here?!".

  also, even if that person or persons have an invitation plus showed it to these dubs, these toy cops still do that procedure.

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  Beth Sarim

  Talk about being "love-bombed"".

  Being tackled to the ground.

  Thats what I call being love-bombed alright.
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  Is WT Using ATTENDANTS At The Conventions To Be: "TOY COPS"

  by HiddlesWife in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have heard from a few ppimis and several pimos that the attendants who are stationedly-assigned to the front entrances of the borgvenues (cahs and other arenas) have been checking to see if any persons (members and non-member visitors) have badges.

  on the other hand, if these persons don't have one, this is what i was told that these dubs do this: corral around the non-badge-wearing individual and interrogate he/she/them plus questioning them, "why are you here?!".

  also, even if that person or persons have an invitation plus showed it to these dubs, these toy cops still do that procedure.

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  Beth Sarim

  It seems like there's at least 2 or e attendants at every swinging door.

  Its like the paranoia complex is in overdrive.

  Or they think attendees aren't capable of opening a door.

  But seriously,,,entrances and concourses are teaming with attendants.

  I dont know if its true,,,but there's been talk of metal detectors.

  And,,,,if you're not wearing a lapel badge...
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  Reddit post about elder asking congregation for money to fix his car!

  by LongHairGal in

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  yes, there’s a post on reddit.

  it says that after a zoom meeting a request was made to baptized publishers to give $20 apiece to fix this elder’s car.. while this sounds highly irregular to me and not necessarily approved by the religion, i am not at all surprised at the nerve.

  this, unfortunately, seems to be the direction that things are going there!

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  Beth Sarim

  LHG,,,Ive always said that the Borg is its own worst enemy.🤣
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  Unbelievable Amount of PIMOS at Massachusetts JW Convention

  by RESPECTFUL OBSERVER in

  1. jw
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  this comment was made on reddit, perhaps protesting is starting to get the witnesses' attention.. it amazed me how many jehovah's witnesses exiting the convention were reading the protester's signs.

  some of the witnesses were taking pictures of the signs.

  jws were going by and smiling and giving a thumbs up.

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  Beth Sarim

  You wonder how lifers and hardcore JWs are going to behave if things keep going as they are?

  That very though should be sobering.

  A lot of JWs are still "numb" and cant think for themselves. NO critical thinking skills mindset,,at all.

  Bearing that in mind. About following instructions whether or not they seem "strategic" from a human standpoint or not. That's just chilling.

  Considering hardcore,loyal JWs swallow everything as the Borg dictates.

  Makes one wonder. Scarey in a way.
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  "How Long Would Jesus' Reign Be?"

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  simple enough question for a jw to answer, because the org has told them for over 100 years that, .

  a) jesus would reign for 1000 years, and.

  b) that his reign began in 1914 when he became king.

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  Beth Sarim

  The Borg always speaks from both sides of its mouth.

  In order to make gullible/naieve people believe anything. So people have a hard time defending inherited doctrines.

  That's how a cult built on sand survives.
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  Treatment of Those Trying For Reinstatement

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
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  what happens when a jehovah’s witness who has been disfellowshipped returns to attending the meetings again?.

  mark jones writes:.

  if it's the same congregation that they previously attended then, yes, the congregation will remember who they are and so continue to treat them as dead or invisible.. one of the identifying marks a cult is that it uses shame and humiliation to control members, to keep them from leaving and manipulating those who escaped into coming back.. a disfellowshipped person is never allowed to quietly leave with dignity.

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  Beth Sarim

  The WT Borg only trains elders in procedures.

  Its all about protecting the WTs a$$ets,,image.

  They just tell people they have their interests.
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  Lots of empty seats at Jehovah's Witnesses Convention in Tucson, Arizona

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
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  https://youtu.be/5926nhzyz90.

  the jehovah's witness 2023 convention theme is, ''exercise patience''...by looking at the attendance at this tucson, arizona convention, it should be changed to, '' jehovah's witnesses...running out of patience''.

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  Beth Sarim

  Should the Borg announced something "big" soon,,,something strange or whatever.

  It most likely can happen once and they're stuck with it. They will have definitely painted themselves into a corner.

  And everyone will see what charlatans they really are.